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Poster: Purple Gel Date: Sep 20, 2006 1:50pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Favorite Cover Band

High Flow,

"That's like calling Fogerty a Creedence cover band. Isn't it?"

John Fogerty is not a CCR cover band, he is a guy playing the songs that he wrote, however the rest of the guys who tour under a different yet similar name (I forget what they call themselves, Creedence Revisited?) are a cover band. Just because a former member is on the band does not preclude it from being a cover or tribute band.

At the risk of getting the "Liamfinnegan treatment", in my opinion, Phil & Friends is the best GD cover band around, and I know from previous threads that I am not the only one on this site with this opinion.

To me, a cover band is one that plays mostly songs from a certain band and doesn't really appreciably change the sound or arrangements of those songs. By this definition, PL&F is more of a cover band than Rat Dog, because 1) Bob wrote most of the songs he performs (I know they do some Jerry tunes) and 2) There is more of a reworking of many of those songs than I hear with Phil and 3) I think (and I've never really liked or paid much attention to Ratdog so I may be wrong) Bob is still writing new songs.

All That being said, I prefer Phil to Ratdog any day of the week.

I know there was a lot of bitchin' and moanin' when Ryan Adams played a few shows with Phil, but at least he introduced some new songs to the mix, one of which, Magnolia Mountain, still gets played. I also know Phil had a huge amount to do with the arrangements of the tunes he covers (and of course he plays a few of his own Dead songs, Box of Rain and Unbroken Chain), but if Jack Cassady or Jorma had a band that played mostly Airplane tunes, Mitch Mitchell or Noel Redding one playing Jimi tunes I would call them a cover band as well.


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Poster: high flow Date: Sep 20, 2006 4:04pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Favorite Cover Band

Hey Purple - Way to come in here, open a can of worms, then split. The old post n' run, eh? 2 can play at that game tough guy, I'm out. "Total silence, total fuckin' silence." - Steve Buscemi(Fargo);)

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Sep 20, 2006 9:55pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Favorite Cover Band

Love Fargo man - great quote - best movie in the past decade - nice call.

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Sep 20, 2006 9:58pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Favorite Cover Band

I'm with ya purple - althoug im not sure i want to get into a debate on what a 'cover band' is. Phil rules though and has been carrying on the dead tradition more than anyone else (imho)

magnolia mountain - great adams tune played really well even when Joan sings it rather than ryan - i just love phil even though i might be in the minority. his bands pretty much rock. especially the latest lineup - never mind missing Chris at the moment.

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Poster: Liamfinnegan Date: Sep 20, 2006 6:20pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Tales from the Crypt- Purple Gel is correct

They (still cannot figure out who they are) always say you have to die to get things named after you (or part with vast sums of money. The liamfinnegan treatment? Bound to become as famous as the heimlach maneuver.

Being bored with this mortal coil, I decided to skip to another incarnation- Karn Evil 9 was so so boring, violent, senseless, and shameful. Only thing that made that world liveable was the good ol GD.

Things have not changed much- everything looks exactly the same after death- one advantage is not having to type- I need only think these words on the page- and the download times are instantaneous- I had the entire LMA hardwired into my infinite brain in a few seconds- whereever I go I think of the date and it starts streaming in my mind- so cool.

Phil and Friends is the best Grateful Dead cover band for sure. I already stated Timberwolf as my other favorite- but they are no longer around. That leaves me with the Zen Tricksters as the best if having a former member rules out the band.

The Jerry guy in that band has a vast range and is inventive, interesting, never boring, and definitely lets the guitar play him. If you have a chance to catch them, it would be a treat

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Sep 20, 2006 9:56pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Tales from the Crypt- Purple Gel is correct

Liam!!! nice to see you back - cool

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Poster: JodyC Date: Sep 21, 2006 7:50am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Tales from the Crypt- Purple Gel is correct

Hey Direwolf- have you ever been diagnosed as bi-polar?! You had the guy nearly tarred and feathered a couple days ago. You ARE a good sport, just like you said you were. Maybe you used the words warm and fuzzy or something. lol.

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Poster: cosmicharlie Date: Sep 21, 2006 8:00am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Tales from the Crypt- Purple Gel is correct

"bi-polar" is a big one theze daze, very popular with the $$ grubbing shrinks. I'm tri-polar, me-myself and i.

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Poster: JodyC Date: Sep 21, 2006 8:12am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Tales from the Crypt- Purple Gel is correct

Does seem like a fancy way of saying moody.

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Sep 21, 2006 5:24pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Tales from the Crypt- Purple Gel is correct

i'll buy the moody diagnosis - maybe bipolar as well - oh well - i flap and flap and then backtrack - hey that almost rhymes - lol

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Poster: JodyC Date: Sep 22, 2006 7:07am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Tales from the Crypt- Purple Gel is correct

I posted a couple pics on the Who are you thread. What was that beer you refered to the other day- smutty puss, snubby horse? I'll have to ask my brother in NH idf they have it there, maybe I'll score a six pack in a couple weeks.

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Sep 22, 2006 7:31am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Tales from the Crypt- Purple Gel is correct

Smuttynose - Shoals Pale Ale. yummy beer if you like microbrews. hope you get a chance to enjoy it - usually relatively easy to find out in this area.

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Poster: cosmicharlie Date: Sep 22, 2006 7:50am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Tales from the Crypt- Purple Gel is correct

Hey dire, have you ever tried this? Black Toad Ale?
It's brewed in Chicago and a good friend recommended it to me, but alas, I can't find it anywhere to test.
A great brewery here in Cali is the Mendocino Brewing Co.
Red Tail Ale is yummy! Too bad there's no ez way to trade cold brews! lol
http://www.mendobrew.com/home.html

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Poster: JodyC Date: Sep 22, 2006 7:57am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Tales from the Crypt- Purple Gel is correct

Had Red Tails for the first time the same day those photos were taken on the Who Are You thread. Yummy is right, especially at lunch! Have not seen Black Toads here in St. Louis which is odd as we should be one the largest, closest markets to Chicago.

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Poster: cosmicharlie Date: Sep 22, 2006 8:14am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Tales from the Crypt- Purple Gel is correct

i bet Liam enjoys Arrogant Bastard Ale-lol (just kidding)
http://www.arrogantbastard.com/
Though i imagine there's no need to drink over there...
This IS funny >> http://www.arrogantbastard.com/animated/index.html

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This post was modified by cosmicharlie on 2006-09-22 15:14:07

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Poster: JodyC Date: Sep 22, 2006 8:36am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Tales from the Crypt- Purple Gel is correct

Great site/animation!

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Poster: Liamfinnegan Date: Sep 20, 2006 10:30pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Tales from the Crypt- Purple Gel is correct

Over on this side there is no pain and no injury- no brew either or acid or shroooms....big surprise? No- it is The Hedonistic Imperative come to life- All is Bliss and nothing is not perfect- IMagine being able to just think a date and the show starts streaming in your head- and not only that, you can shuffle and do everything a media player does right in your head! Bobby even sounds good here.

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Poster: midnight sun Date: Sep 21, 2006 2:36am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Tales from the Crypt- Purple Gel is correct

Liamfinnegan:

i know it is too late, but for whatever it is worth, i did try to answer your "Buzzkill Bob" thread several times last weekend, but failed to articulate a meaningful reply...although i am entitled to my opinion, i could not hit the "submit post" button out of respect for myself and the forum

thank you for challenging my perceptions in GD and life itself...something that i have always been grateful that this forum has done, even though at times i have resisted

PS - it is a relief to know that Bobby also sounds good over on the "OTHER SIDE"...even during Rochester 85 Estimated

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Poster: cosmicharlie Date: Sep 21, 2006 5:47am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Tales from the Crypt- Purple Gel is correct

the question is, how's Donna sound up there? Is she always on tune with purrfect wails??
For me, it's imagine remembering a date -for the screaming in my head. (years of DBDamage)lol.
Whatever the posts, i surely did'nt want to leave you hanging...(which led to a bit of thc paranoia after your first cousins post) whew!
I was thinking of direwolfs bong yesterday and the movie Naked Lunch popped into my head-(btw-one of my top 10)

"See, you can't rewrite, 'cause to rewrite is to deceive and lie, and you betray your own thoughts. To rethink the flow and the rhythm, the tumbling out of the words, is a betrayal, and it's a sin, Martin, it's a sin"








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Poster: high flow Date: Sep 20, 2006 7:16pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Tales from the Crypt- Purple Gel is correct

Hey Now - Yeah, maybe now an everyday term, like "pulling a Homer".:)

welcome back, i knew you wriggled out of it...

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Poster: Earl B. Powell Date: Sep 21, 2006 2:20pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Tales from the Crypt- Purple Gel is correct

The start of my next novel: Recognizing that Liam was crying out for attention, Earl reminded him that sympathy was located in the dictionary somewhere between shit and syphilis. Earl then handed Liam a coil of new rope with which to hang himself...again. The End.

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Poster: high flow Date: Sep 20, 2006 2:34pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Favorite Cover Band

OK. I just feel if a key member of the original band is part of the line-up, under a new name, it's not exactly a cover band. Fogerty was more vital to Creedence than Phil was to GD, from the songwriting perspective. However, I feel Phil is SO MUCH a part of what GD is, was and will be, that he's playing his songs. Not covering ones by other bands.

All THAT said, Los Lobos has played the best cover TUNES of any band I've seen live.

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Poster: unclejohnnyd Date: Sep 20, 2006 2:48pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Favorite Cover Band

Really? I prefer Los Lobos original material. So much so I get pissed that a band of their caliber plays so many. The Dead never pissed me off playing covers except in the case of covers of contemperaries like Mr. Fantasy. Just lowered their status to me. I will say Los Lobos version of Bertha is allways hot!

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Poster: Fishead Date: Sep 21, 2006 12:57pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Favorite Cover Band

"The Dead never pissed me off playing covers except in the case of covers of contemperaries like Mr. Fantasy. Just lowered their status to me. "

really ?? to me jerry was mr fantasy and it was the perfect tune to cover....brent&jerry ripped it up!!! loved it!!!

now hey jude on the other hand .... :(

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Poster: high flow Date: Sep 20, 2006 3:06pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Favorite Cover Band

Tomorrow Never Knows, Are You Experienced?, Cinnamon Girl, One Way Out and Bertha ALL ROCK. I know there are others I've left out, but...the memory fails.

With LL, you get to hear these great songs performed by a great band. I've seen LL in many venues, but they go psychedelic at the Fillmore. It's special!

BTW, many bands are covering Old Crow Medicine Show's "Wagon Wheel". Enter "wagon wheel" in LMA search and check it out. Great tune.

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Poster: unclejohnnyd Date: Sep 20, 2006 3:06pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Favorite Cover Band

I don't like them playing the others sorry.It's not that they don't do them good, it's just that they aint a bar/wedding band anmore. They still have that garage band feel but with that seasoned professionalism. They just have too damn many fine original compositions they hardly ever play. I'd rather they play more obscure covers if they're going to do them. Obviously they enjoy playing them or maybe it's people like you cheering too loudly during these covers that makes them keep playing them? That's it, it's you're fault huh? Just kidding. ps - the what's going on from their 2 disc collection is killer so is politician.

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Poster: high flow Date: Sep 20, 2006 3:13pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Favorite Cover Band

UJD - You're right. I AM the issue.

Just send me a big box of Halibut and we'll call it a day!

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Poster: unclejohnnyd Date: Sep 20, 2006 3:35pm
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Ok, but you'll have to guarantee that they'll keep coming back up here ( three times in 12 years so far which is better than nothing ).

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Poster: patkelley Date: Sep 20, 2006 7:20pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Favorite Cover Band

Phil is just as important in the Dead as John Fogerty was in CCR. There would have been no GD without the Bass.

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Poster: high flow Date: Sep 20, 2006 8:19pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Favorite Cover Band

Pat - Not sure which way yours was directed, but I agree. My point WAS, GD is Phil and Phil is GD. So, HOW can PAF be a GD cover band?

Purple stated, Fogerty wrote the songs and that's the essential difference to him. Not to me.

I wouldn't call Ringo Starr(better example than McCartney) a Beatles cover band either. Even though Ringo didn't write songs his importance to the Beatles excludes him from ever having that label.



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Poster: Fishead Date: Sep 21, 2006 1:01pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Favorite Cover Band

i guess david gilmores pink floyd is a cover band too...

i'm with you phil & friends doesnt count ...

didn't phil help write the music ..that too me is
more important anyway than the lyrics..

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Poster: high flow Date: Sep 21, 2006 1:08pm
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Thank you. Voice of reason!

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Poster: patkelley Date: Sep 21, 2006 6:32am
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I'm with you on this one.

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